September 16, 2025 — Regular Meeting

Conroe Independent School District Board of Trustees — Regular Meeting

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Conroe ISD Board Meeting — 2025-09-16

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Unofficial Meeting Notes

Conroe Independent School District Board of Trustees

Regular Meeting — September 16, 2025

Note: These are unofficial notes based on an auto-generated transcript. They may contain errors in names, spellings, or details. Official minutes should be consulted for the authoritative record.

Meeting Called to Order

Time: 6:00 p.m.
Quorum confirmed
Meeting adjourned at 12:16 a.m. (over 6 hours)

Opening

Invocation: Trustee Nelson — included a moment of silence referencing recent national acts of violence, specifically mentioning events in Colorado, Charlotte, and the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Prayers offered for affected families.
Pledges: Led by Trustee Horton (U.S. and Texas pledges)

Item 2: Special Recognition — Read for a Better Life

Dr. Landry presented the annual district-wide reading initiative encouraging adults to read aloud to children at least 30 minutes per day.

Item 3: Citizen Participation (Public Comments)

Extensive public comment period with speakers on multiple topics. Key themes:

Ten Commandments Display (SB10) — Opposition

Virginia Arens (parent/alumni/former teacher): Raised concerns about religious instruction in classrooms, asked about multi-religious training for teachers, questioned whether posters align with board members' campaign promises on parental rights.
Katherine Rodriguez (parent): Opposed as a non-Abrahamic faith household; reported her 10-year-old already facing peer backlash over different beliefs.
Joshua Schwarz: Cited SB12 Section 1.009 as conflicting with SB10; referenced Stone v. Graham (1980) Supreme Court precedent; argued AG's press release was political, not legal guidance; questioned who authorized the poster display and demanded transparency.
Dr. Lynn Walters (retired Texas A&M professor, CISD parent/grandparent): Argued Ten Commandments are not part of any founding legal documents; accused "purple people" supporters of being outside agitators.
Deborah Lieber (longtime Woodlands resident): Argued SB10 and SB12 are in direct conflict; said the only way to respect parental rights under SB12 is to remove posters.
Mark Brooks (CISD parent): Questioned the decision-making process — no board vote occurred at August 19 meeting; posters appeared over Labor Day weekend; questioned who authorized this and called for every trustee to go on record.
Arthur "Randy" Herb: Noted the posted version appears to have ~12 commandments and tracks Protestant version, potentially alienating Catholics.
Bella Matthysse (Conroe High School sophomore/student council officer): Criticized the district for deleting student social media comments about drug use and gun violence; described impact on students of different faiths including 4-year-olds encountering the posters; noted purple is also the color for suicide prevention awareness.
Steven Powell (parent, Christian): Said religious education is a parental right, not a school board responsibility; suggested secular character programs like "Character Counts" as alternatives.
Destiny Milton: Presented a binder of 270+ CISD constituent voices — 93% demanding poster removal, versus 19 submissions in favor; asked audience members who live in CISD to stand to demonstrate community opposition.
PJ Good Holes (parent): Cited Stone v. Graham; argued displays serve as political statements.
Jennifer Levier: Argued the country was founded on religious freedom, not religious mandate.
Carrie Freemyer: Accused board of running an agenda despite campaign promises otherwise.
Rebecca Rosenberg (parent of CISD kindergartener): Argued for secular, inclusive education.
Angela Lackey (parent): Called for inclusive moral education not tied to one religion.
Emily Nazar (CISD parent and 2006 graduate): Asked board to prioritize education over personal, political, or religious beliefs.

Ten Commandments Display (SB10) — Support

Rebecca Smith: Cited the 1939 Crockett building inscription (John 8:32); argued commandments teach universal values.
Dr. Jerry Nash: Explained purple clothing represented "royalty of Christ"; argued commandments provide a moral compass.
Jeff Zedler: Congratulated district on hiring a "conservative superintendent"; argued country was founded on Judeo-Christian values.
Robert Leel (6 children in district): Cited historical references to God in founding documents and John Adams quotes.
Susan Scrubs: Commended board for compliance; expressed belief God will bless the district.
Tina Orba (15+ year CISD teacher): Voiced strong support; argued the Bible is the foundation of all religion.
Michelle Knuckles: Referenced a CISD teacher's Facebook post about Charlie Kirk's death; urged board to establish clear employee conduct policy.
Diane Daniels: Supported display; also criticized Bluebonnet curriculum.

Legal Perspective on SB10

Jonathan Hulahhead (attorney, Remnant Law; New Caney HS graduate, Montgomery County taxpayer): Argued the board has a legal duty to uphold SB10 since CISD is not under injunction; warned that board members who condone removal could face removal lawsuits under Local Government Code 87 for official misconduct.

Bluebonnet Curriculum Concerns

Ellen Muter (parent of 2nd grader): Reported curriculum is scripted, repetitive, and worksheet-heavy; noted Christian references woven into lessons; raised SB12 opt-out concerns.
Brianna Loganov (parent of 4): Cited specific errors (8+4=7; animal described as "whimsical"); reported kindergarteners not writing letters until November.
Kristen Brown (parent): Noted 19 policies in one meeting is overwhelming for community review; supported following the law on SB10 but opposed going beyond requirements.

Item 4: Consent Agenda

Item I was removed and tabled until September 18th meeting
Motion: Approve consent agenda (items A–L, minus I)
Vote: 7-0 — APPROVED
Motion by Trustee Nelson, seconded by Trustee Dawson

Item 5A: Superintendent's Report — Attendance Boundary Update

Presenter: Mr. McCord (noted as his 59th birthday)

Casey Arnold Elementary (K–6)

Capacity: 950 students
Location: 5175 Woodson Spring Road
Opening: August 2026

Grand Oaks Junior High

Capacity: 800 students
Location: 28075 Woodson's Grand Drive
Opening: August 2027
Shares building with Grand Oaks HS 9th Grade Campus (1,200 seats) — separated by interior wall
Total building: 2,000 seats

Key Points:

Grand Oaks area projected to reach ~1,400 students per grade level by 2033–34 (~5,600 HS students)
Schools needing relief: Clark, Cox, Bradley, York, and Hines Elementary
Bradley at 97% capacity with 10 portables (housing Pre-K, ECSE, life skills, dyslexia programs, and all 4th graders)
Future elementary site land secured from Toll Brothers on layaway
Townsen Road extension to Imperial Promenade expected January 2027
Committee zoning meetings begin in coming weeks (virtual and in-person)
Zoning webpage goes live Friday
This is the last zoning project from the 2023 bond program

Item 5B: Senate Bill 10 Update

Dr. Landry confirmed: In compliance with state law and AG guidance, the district has hung Ten Commandments posters in all classrooms and is in full compliance.
No vote taken — informational item only.

Item 6: Teaching and Learning

TABLED until next month's meeting to wait for Dr. Vinson's (incoming superintendent) arrival.
Board President recognized Dr. Upshaw's preparation work on the presentation.

Item 7: Planning & Construction — GMP Amendment

Project: Wilkinson, Patterson, Bozman, Stewart, Cryar, and Grangerland renovations
Work includes: chillers, boilers, air handlers, freezer/cooler upgrades, electrical equipment, roof replacement, safety/security upgrades, and athletic facility improvements
GMP: $15,742,061.13 (from bond funds)
Total bond budget allocated: $17,150,497
Additional $1.5 million from general fund specifically for athletic facility improvements (annual allocation for items like tracks, tennis courts, gym floors, synthetic turf)
Motion by May, seconded by Semmler
Vote: 7-0 — APPROVED

Item 8A: Bond Issuance — New Money (Series 2026)

Third sale from 2023 bond program
Amount: Up to $445 million
Planned sale: January 7, 2026; closing February 3, 2026
One more bond sale remaining after this (expected ~January 2027)
Vote: 7-0 — APPROVED (Dungan and Nelson)

Item 8B: Bond Refunding

Refunding existing 2016 and 2016A bonds
Parameter authorization: up to ~$260 million
Estimated savings: ~$10.8 million (~$95,000/year for 12 years, 5.3% PV savings)
District has saved ~$149 million through refunding/prepayment programs since 2014
District underlying rating: AA1/A+ (one notch below AAA); bonds sell at AAA via Permanent School Fund guarantee
Planned sale: October 22, 2025; closing November 20, 2025
Vote: 7-0 — APPROVED (Dawson and Semmler)

Item 8C: District Legal Expenses Report (Informational)

Presenter: Ms. Garza (CFO)

Three-Year Average Annual Legal Expenditures (~$1.1 million total):

| Category | Amount |

|---|---|

| General Counsel compensation (salary + benefits) | $234,000 |

| Non-litigation services (general) | ~$384,000 combined |

| Non-litigation services (special education) | Included above |

| Due process/administrative/judicial litigation | $175,000 (fluctuates) |

| TASBY litigation (legal liability claims below deductible) | $32,000 |

| Real property non-litigation services | $90,000 |

| Support staff (legal assistant + admin) | Included in total |

| Hearing officers (~40 cases/year, 2–25 hours each) | ~$200,000 combined |

| Other costs (record retention, supplies, training) | Remainder |

Key Discussion Points:

Hearing officers are hourly employees (not salaried as previously communicated), working under 50% FTE
Board discussed whether hearing officer roles could be contracted differently for fiscal prudence
Real property legal costs of ~$90K/year relate to land acquisitions; Mr. Foster to provide per-transaction cost data
Policy BDD was previously amended to allow either in-house or outside general counsel

Item 8D: Engagement of General Counsel

Proposal: Retain O'Hanlon, Demerath & Castillo law firm as general counsel
Flat fee: $30,000/month (~$360,000/year vs. $384,000 three-year average = ~$25,000 annual savings)
Litigation costs billed separately (comparable to current)
Contract terminable at any time for any reason with no liability

Services Provided (during ~1.5 month temporary engagement):

24/7 access to legal team with multiple specialists
Handling all public information requests
~25 board policies reviewed/drafted
Special education litigation mitigation
Handbook reviews (employee and student)
Construction contract review
~10+ administrator questions handled daily
Staff training capabilities (board-certified trainers)

Key Discussion:

Board President praised collaborative working environment
Trustees asked about response times, office hours, and communication with staff
Counsel confirmed she comes in on board meeting days; discussing additional on-site presence with incoming superintendent
Noted Dr. Vinson has experience operating with outside general counsel
Vote: 7-0 — APPROVED (Nelson and Horton)

10-minute break taken at 8:24 p.m.; resumed at 8:42 p.m.

Items 9 & 10: Board Policy Actions

Third Reading / Final Action Policies:

BF Local (Board Operations/Policy Framework)

Removed redundant language about legal references
Vote: 7-0 — APPROVED (Dawson and Dungan)

DC Local (Employment Practices — Retire/Rehire)

Changed per HB 2 (89th Legislature): All retire-rehire employees now responsible for TRS surcharge (previously district-paid under repealed law)
Aligns handbook with policy
Vote: 7-0 — APPROVED (Dawson and May)

DP Local (Chaplain Policy)

Multiple amendments adopted:

1. Added "and appropriate process and procedures" to superintendent's screening authority — 7-0

2. Removed "All chaplains are subject to final approval by the board" — 6-1 (making chaplains treated like other volunteers)

3. Added "or employee" to make chaplain services available to employees as well as students — 7-0

4. Added "Not take the place of a certified school counselor" — 7-0

5. Changed certification language to: "A chaplain shall be certified from a reputable and established organization and maintain an ecclesiastical endorsement" — 7-0

Trustee Nelson noted for the record desire for chaplains to collaborate with certified school counselors
Consent form to be separate (not bundled with general start-of-year forms)
Final policy as amended: 7-0 — APPROVED

EFA Local (Instructional Materials)

Significant discussion on board vs. superintendent authority over instructional material selection
Policy clarifies board retains "ultimate authority" over instructional materials; superintendent must certify materials align with board policy
Amendment to strike "policies" and leave only "procedures" under superintendent authority was initially approved 7-0, then reverted back to original language ("policies and procedures") by 7-0 vote after discussion about superintendent's ability to initiate policies
Amendment failed (2-5) to reinstate language giving professional staff selection authority under superintendent direction
Staff directed to correct typographical errors (numbering issue)
Final vote: 5-2 — APPROVED (two opposed noted objection related to the instructional materials selection authority language change)

EFB Local (Library/Instructional Resources)

Entirely rewritten due to extensive legislative changes
Discussion on pornographic/sexually explicit material exception for health/anatomy classes required by state/federal law
Discussion on library book checkout notification emails (currently sent daily; board requested change to checkout/return only — procedural, not policy)
Vote: 7-0 — APPROVED

EHBA Local (Special Education Legal Reporting)

New policy requiring monthly legal report to board in closed session on special education disputes/litigation
Public website report also required (with "may" language for content flexibility to protect FERPA)
Trustee Dawson raised concerns about burden on special ed department and FERPA risks
Counsel clarified most reporting would come from legal/CFO, not special ed staff
Motion to call the question approved over Trustee Dawson's remaining questions
Vote: 5-2 — APPROVED (Trustee Dawson voted opposed; one other opposed)

FNAA Local (Student Expression/Distribution of Non-School Literature)

Vote: 7-0 — APPROVED

GKDA Local (Non-School Use of Facilities/Distribution of Non-School Literature)

Vote: 7-0 — APPROVED

First Reading / Discussion Only Policies (No Votes):

BED — Board Meeting Public Participation
DF — Termination of Employment
DGBA — Employee Complaints and Grievances
EA — Instructional Goals and Objectives
EMBB — Teaching About Controversial Issues (added definition)
FA — Parents Rights/Responsibilities (legislative compliance; board meetings must be held outside regular business hours, defined as 8–5; applies to regular and special meetings but not committee meetings)
FFB — Threat Assessment (new policy — district was not previously compliant; brought forward by Trustee Horton; moved from incorrect placement to first reading)
FL — Student Records (legislative)
FM — Student Activities/Extracurricular
FNG — Student/Parent Complaints changed to Grievances (legislative)
GF — Public Complaints/Communications

Closed Session

Entered at 10:04 p.m. under Texas Government Code §§551.071, 551.072, 551.074, 551.082
Returned to open session at 12:13 a.m.
No final action taken in closed session

Post-Closed Session Actions

Personnel Action

Motion: Propose termination for good cause and authorize notice of mid-contract termination for Angela Gerard (per TGC §551.074)
Vote: 7-0 — APPROVED (Dungan and Nelson)

Real Estate Purchase

Motion: Approve superintendent to negotiate purchase of property (details discussed in closed session)
Vote: 7-0 — APPROVED (Dungan and Semmler)

Item 11C: Skipped (no details provided in transcript)

FNG Level 3 Grievance Appeal

Board determined it has no jurisdiction — no action taken

Item 13: Future Agenda Requests

Trustee submitted request for amendment to Policy CY (use of district logos)

Meeting Adjourned

Time: 12:16 a.m.

Summary of All Votes

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Notable Items & Flags

SB10 (Ten Commandments): Superintendent confirmed compliance; no board vote was taken on display. Multiple speakers questioned who authorized the display and the lack of a public vote. One speaker presented a binder of 270+ constituent responses (93% opposing). An attorney warned board members could face removal lawsuits for non-compliance with state law.
Bluebonnet Curriculum: Multiple parents and speakers raised quality concerns including factual errors, excessive worksheets, and religious content embedded in lessons. Teaching and learning presentation was tabled to next month.
19 policies in one meeting was flagged by a constituent as difficult for the public to track.
Chaplain policy (DP) was significantly amended with 5 separate amendments, all passing.
EFA policy generated the most board debate regarding superintendent vs. board authority over instructional materials; passed 5-2.
EHBA policy (special education legal reporting) passed 5-2 with concerns about burden and FERPA.
FFB (Threat Assessment) — noted the district was previously non-compliant; policy is in first reading.
Item I from consent agenda tabled to September 18.
District "All Means All" motto reportedly removed from CISD websites, noted by a constituent.

⚑ Items to Watch

Policy EFA (Instructional Materials) — passed 5-2. Shifts authority over instructional material selection toward the board and away from professional staff/superintendent. Parents and educators should monitor how this affects curriculum adoption processes going forward.
Policy EHBA (Special Education Legal Reporting) — passed 5-2. New monthly reporting requirement on special education disputes; concerns raised about FERPA compliance and burden on special education staff. Watch for implementation details and public website reports.
Policy DP, Amendment 2 (Chaplains) — passed 6-1. Removed requirement for board final approval of chaplains, treating them like other volunteers. Watch for rollout procedures and consent form process.
Consent Agenda Item I — tabled to September 18. No details provided on the substance; merits follow-up.
Ten Commandments displays (SB10): No board vote was taken; posters were hung over Labor Day weekend. Multiple speakers demanded transparency on who authorized the display. Binder of 270+ constituent responses (93% opposing) submitted. Ongoing legal uncertainty (SB10 vs. SB12 conflict; pending litigation in other districts).
Bluebonnet Curriculum concerns: Multiple parents cited factual errors, scripted/repetitive instruction, and religious content embedded in lessons. Teaching and Learning presentation was tabled until the incoming superintendent (Dr. Vinson) arrives.
FFB (Threat Assessment) — first reading: District acknowledged it was not previously compliant with threat assessment policy requirements. Watch for second and third readings.
Angela Gerard — mid-contract termination proposed (7-0). No public details on the basis for termination.
Real estate purchase authorized — details undisclosed (closed session). Watch for future disclosures.
Bond issuance up to $445 million approved — third sale from 2023 bond program; one more sale expected ~January 2027. Significant ongoing financial commitment.
General Counsel engagement — new outside firm (O'Hanlon, Demerath & Castillo) at $30K/month replaces in-house counsel model. Watch for how on-site presence and staff access evolve under incoming superintendent.
Policy FA (Parents Rights) — first reading: Requires board meetings to be held outside regular business hours (8–5). Could affect scheduling of future special and regular meetings.
District "All Means All" motto reportedly removed from CISD websites — no official explanation provided.